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Re: Some funny sounds

Postby Andrew » December 19th, 2015, 6:19 pm

I didn't bother installing MUNT system-wide. I prefer using it integrated into various apps.

David wrote:I have to set: mididevice=mt32 in dosbox.conf.
Now it works!

I didn't even think to mention that because I thought that would've been the first thing you'd have done. :) Anyway, what do you think of the (close to) actual MT-32 sounds now?

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Re: Some funny sounds

Postby David » January 9th, 2016, 11:51 am

Andrew wrote:I didn't even think to mention that because I thought that would've been the first thing you'd have done.

(mididevice=mt32 in dosbox.conf)
I tried that once (before knew that I need ROMs), but then it didn't change anything.
So I thought that maybe it means to use a real MT-32, which I don't have.

Now I see it writes an error message into the log in that case, but it gets lost among all the other messages.

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MT32: Control ROM file not found
MIDI:Can't open device:mt32 with config:.


Andrew wrote:The official version's devs for some puzzling reason are extremely reluctant to integrate patches contributed by the community for better hardware compatibility.

They mention why didn't they include proper MT-32 emulation, here: http://sourceforge.net/blog/potm-201301/

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Re: Some funny sounds

Postby Andrew » January 9th, 2016, 4:46 pm

David wrote:(mididevice=mt32 in dosbox.conf)
I tried that once (before knew that I need ROMs), but then it didn't change anything.
So I thought that maybe it means to use a real MT-32, which I don't have.

Ah, so you made the change when you didn't have the ROMs, then didn't once you got them. Oh well, not a big deal since we all sometimes miss things that seem obvious in hindsight. At least we're now able to enjoy the sounds as they were intended instead of wondering why the game sounds so funny in MT-32 mode. :)

David wrote:They mention why didn't they include proper MT-32 emulation, here: http://sourceforge.net/blog/potm-201301/

Having followed the drama somewhat over the years on Vogons, that interview is hardly the whole story. For example, if they were really so afraid of legal challenges from Roland to bundling the ROMs, that in no way explains why they refuse to at least add the code and leave the business of locating the ROMs to users. SCUMMVM as mentioned by them in the interview does have the code integrated but of course doesn't bundle the ROMs, and they've not faced any legal challenges yet because they're not distributing anything illegal. Moreover MT-32 support is not the only improvement the unofficial DOSBox builds have, so I'd have to say there are probably ego clashes and related issues at work here. Unfortunate, but at least we have those forks to help us out thanks to the open source nature of the project.

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Re: Some funny sounds

Postby David » February 13th, 2016, 5:41 pm

doppelganger wrote:Setting sounds to Roland in 1.3 is funny. You know, the the trumpet for the prince's footsteps, and so on?

These mixed-up sounds remind me of an episode of Garfield and Friends, titled Sound Judgment.

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Re: Some funny sounds

Postby David » May 27th, 2017, 9:42 am

PoPUW's problems page now has a section about using Munt with DOSBox: http://popuw.com/problems.html
NOTE: The original ROM code of the MT-32 is in the public domain and can be freely used and distributed.

Is that really so?

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Re: Some funny sounds

Postby Norbert » May 27th, 2017, 12:28 pm

David wrote:
NOTE: The original ROM code of the MT-32 is in the public domain and can be freely used and distributed.

Is that really so?


Not really, because no legality has been established. Roland first omitted (left out forgetfully) copyright (law). Roland then wanted to use copyright restoration provisions to make it a "restored work", but failed to provide proof (documentation) of disparity in international publication dates. (They found the first Japanese sale date, but not for the United States.) So, they then made the emulation developer an offer "without prejudice": publication can continue, but "if any evidence does surface, Roland will request that this site be taken down again" (source). It's an ongoing battle by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and others against the Berne Convention and other copyright and trade treaties that relate to our privacy and digital rights. The rich rulers can decide to retrospectively give Roland copyright tomorrow.

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Re: Some funny sounds

Postby David » May 28th, 2017, 10:08 am

Thanks for the info.

Oh, great. So it's another complicated copyright case...


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