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Names of the levels

Posted: August 17th, 2013, 10:21 am
by David
I collected the names of the levels from all PoP1 games and level editors that have them.

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 #  Apple II   Macintosh   RoomShaker     Apoplexy  
----------------------------------------------------
 0  DEMO       Demo        DEMONSTRATION  demo      
 1  CELL       Cell        PRISON         prison    
 2  Guards     Guards      GUARDS         guards    
 3  NEWSKEL    Skeleton    SKELETON       skeleton  
 4  NEWMIRROR  Mirror      MIRROR         mirror    
 5  THIEF      Thief       THIEF          thief     
 6  PLUNGE     Plunge      PLUNGE         plunge    
 7  wtless     Weightless  WEIGHTLESS     weightless
 8  329        '329'       MOUSE          mouse     
 9  TWISTY     Twisty      TWISTY         twisty    
10  QUAD       Quad        QUAID          quad      
11  WILD       Wild        FRAGILE        fragile   
12  TOWER      Tower       TOWER          tower     
13  FINAL      Final       JAFFAR         jaffar    
14  VICTORY    Victory     RESCUE         rescue    
15             Potion      POTIONS        potions   
Notes:
Apple II has no level 15. Its copy protection was based on a custom disk format instead.
I sorted the columns by the order of release.
Each column seems to be based on the previous. RS changed the names of levels 1,8,11,13 and 14.

Sources:
Apple II: http://www.promax.media.pl/~matuszewski ... incapp.zip, offset 0x21300 of disk 2 and disk 3. Do a bitwise AND with 0x7F.
Also mentioned here, the names there come from Mechner's documentation (page 5).
Macintosh: Near the end of the file "Prince of Persia". PoPMap also shows the names.
RoomShaker: http://www.popot.org/level_editors.php? ... oomShaker1 v1.79
Apoplexy: http://www.popot.org/level_editors.php?editor=apoplexy v1.2b

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: August 19th, 2013, 1:35 pm
by Norbert
I've asked Mechner about the origin of the name of the eighth level.
If he replies, I'll post his reply in this thread.


Re: Names of the levels

Posted: November 3rd, 2014, 11:43 am
by David
It seems that PoP Classic gives different names to the levels:
Level 1 - Prison
Level 2 - Barracks
Level 3 - Catacombs
Level 4 - Storage
Level 5 - Courtyard
Level 6 - Tower Entrance
Level 7 - Wine Cellar
Level 8 - Warehouse
Level 9 - Palace Reservoir
Level 10 - Garden
Level 11 - Balcony
Level 12 - High Tower
Level 13 - Jaffar's Quarters
Level 14 - Princess's Room

Source: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... BAEA376EBB
Source: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... A505C133C0
Source: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Prince_of_ ... f_Contents

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: January 19th, 2016, 5:17 pm
by _Zaphod_
David wrote: Apple II has no level 15. Its copy protection was based on a custom disk format instead.
I think this counts as proof positive that cracked pop1 is the true original game, and is how Mechner intended the game to be.

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: March 1st, 2016, 3:29 am
by jalal
Come on guys. 329 means 3 to level 9. what is 3? read the guide.

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: March 1st, 2016, 7:13 pm
by Norbert
jalal wrote:Come on guys. 329 means 3 to level 9. what is 3? read the guide.
Interesting guess, could be.
Your cryptic reference to the guide, it seems you mean three jumps to reach level nine.
Maybe one day Mechner will explain the number to us.

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: March 2nd, 2016, 10:12 am
by Zaknafein
Norbert wrote:
jalal wrote: Come on guys. 329 means 3 to level 9. what is 3? read the guide.
Interesting guess, could be.
Your cryptic reference to the guide, it seems you mean three jumps to reach level nine.
Maybe one day Mechner will explain the number to us.
It seems you are at 3 ¿? to level 9 in some moment in level 8. Here are my hypothesis:

There are 4 guards. You need to jump more than 3 times, to reach lvl 9, so it can't be the correct answer.

When you open the door to lvl 9, you can reach it only playing in rooms 3, 4 and 16 . You reach lvl 9 from room 3. You have to wait 3 seconds (or cycles) in mouse's room to open the door. The mouse walks 3 tiles left to open the door, and then it flees going 3 tiles right. There are 3 torches in room 3.

Maybe there is another answer related with number 3, to reach lvl 9 :?: :?:
I lost my guide, so I don't know the correct answer.

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: March 2nd, 2016, 2:48 pm
by doppelganger
Zaknafein wrote:
Norbert wrote:
jalal wrote: Come on guys. 329 means 3 to level 9. what is 3? read the guide.
Interesting guess, could be.
Your cryptic reference to the guide, it seems you mean three jumps to reach level nine.
Maybe one day Mechner will explain the number to us.
It seems you are at 3 ¿? to level 9 in ...
... You reach lvl 9 from room 3. You have ...
I don't know the correct answer.
I think it is room 3 to level 9.

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: March 3rd, 2016, 3:30 am
by jalal
Norbert wrote:
jalal wrote:Come on guys. 329 means 3 to level 9. what is 3? read the guide.
Interesting guess, could be.
Your cryptic reference to the guide, it seems you mean three jumps to reach level nine.
Maybe one day Mechner will explain the number to us.
Yeah you know i was thinking about this today at work it could also mean 3 = prince+princess++mouse
doppelganger wrote:I think it is room 3 to level 9.
Zaknafein wrote:It seems you are at 3 ¿? to level 9 in some moment in level 8. Here are my hypothesis:

There are 4 guards. You need to jump more than 3 times, to reach lvl 9, so it can't be the correct answer.

When you open the door to lvl 9, you can reach it only playing in rooms 3, 4 and 16 . You reach lvl 9 from room 3. You have to wait 3 seconds (or cycles) in mouse's room to open the door. The mouse walks 3 tiles left to open the door, and then it flees going 3 tiles right. There are 3 torches in room 3.

Maybe there is another answer related with number 3, to reach lvl 9 :?: :?:
I lost my guide, so I don't know the correct answer.
Interesting too

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: March 3rd, 2016, 3:48 am
by jalal
Zaknafein wrote:I lost my guide, so I don't know the correct answer.
http://popuw.com/story/index.html

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: March 5th, 2016, 11:56 am
by Zaknafein
jalal wrote:
Zaknafein wrote:I lost my guide, so I don't know the correct answer.
http://popuw.com/story/index.html
Thanks! Maybe Rusel DeMaria knows the meaning of 329 :roll:

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: March 6th, 2016, 3:01 am
by jalal

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: December 6th, 2017, 1:22 pm
by Norbert
Norbert wrote:
August 19th, 2013, 1:35 pm
I've asked Mechner about the origin of the name of the eighth level.
Giving it another shot:

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: December 8th, 2017, 10:02 am
by Falcury
Here's his reply:

Re: Names of the levels

Posted: December 8th, 2017, 9:44 pm
by Norbert
Falcury wrote:
December 8th, 2017, 10:02 am
Here's his reply: [...]
Hey, that's cool that he replied.
And that kind of makes sense too, that it'd stand for March 29.
Still a bit strange to keep the level name like that through.
Plus, it's interesting that he writes made on and not finished on.