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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby SuavePrince » August 26th, 2015, 6:18 am

Some tricks


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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby David » August 29th, 2015, 12:21 pm

@SuavePrince: At 1:01 your video says "The Princess is Mine".
But I think it's the "Arjak_levels" instead. Look here around 2:00.
(Those two rooms were familiar.)

Also, around 0:32 is "Temple of Chaos". I can't find it on the forum or PoPOT. Is that an unreleased mod?

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby SuavePrince » August 29th, 2015, 5:59 pm

David wrote:@SuavePrince: At 1:01 your video says "The Princess is Mine".
But I think it's the "Arjak_levels" instead. Look here around 2:00.
(Those two rooms were familiar.)

Also, around 0:32 is "Temple of Chaos". I can't find it on the forum or PoPOT. Is that an unreleased mod?


The princess is mine trick because is necessary in level 11(some people dont know how pass the first room)the video is a reference,you can use all tricks in any mod,if you dont want,do not do it,but in other mod is necessary..and temple of chaos soon be available,but you know now,you can use the trick :D

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby Norbert » November 24th, 2015, 11:45 am

Nice find, yaqxsw.

It's similar to trick 91, but instead of the wall+chomper, you use a gate+wall.
It's a good thing this trick doesn't work without the object to the right of the prince, or gates would cease to be obstacles.
Oh, this is trick 100 on popot.org. :)

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby David » November 28th, 2015, 8:21 pm

There are many similar tricks on PoPOT.
I found these: 7, 37, 48, 54, 62, 68, 70(?), 91, 96, 99, 100

What is common among these, is that there is some obstacle on the right, and the prince can go through some obstacle on the left.

In SDLPoP, there is an option called FIX_TWO_COLL_BUG to fix (some of) these. (I tested only a few of the tricks.)
If you look into the code, you see that the original code does not check the left side if there is something on the right side.

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby Norbert » February 19th, 2016, 10:21 am

Hey folks,

As you may have seen, new forum user oitofelix has recently released MININIM.
Like SDLPoP, MININIM is a new implementation of PoP1 for DOS.

Recently, oitofelix suggested that the PoP1 tricks could be tested with MININIM.
To see which ones are possible in MININIM, and which ones are not.

If you want to help with this testing, below I'll explain how you can do this.
You'll be able to use apoplexy to create levels, and then launch MININIM to test tricks.

Get this version of MININIM:
https://github.com/oitofelix/mininim/re ... -win32.zip (GNU/Linux version here)
And get apoplexy:
http://www.popot.org/level_editors/soft ... -win64.zip (GNU/Linux version here)

Then, add all files of MININIM (including its data\ directory) to apoplexy's prince\ directory.
Finally, rename mininim.exe to prince.exe.

If you want to report about which tricks work and which do not, please do so in this thread.
If you want to talk about MININIM itself, please do so in this thread.

Thanks!

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby Norbert » May 10th, 2016, 7:50 pm

Two very similar tricks:
- the first is my original intended solution in Prince of Wateria level 8,
- the second is yaqxsw's improved version without taking damage.


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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby Norbert » July 28th, 2016, 2:31 pm

Two new tricks.

The first was shown in a playthrough by SuavePrince of yaqxsw's mod "Impossible!".
The second was posted by ArmFly.



The second trick requires 'triggering of any tile'.

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby Falcury » November 20th, 2016, 11:33 pm

You can land on the right-most edge of a closed gate tile (or alternatively a tapestry + floor tile) using a running jump to the left from two floors up.

I captured the attached video from DOSBox (for some reason it's not the best quality though?)
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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby Norbert » November 20th, 2016, 11:40 pm

Wow, very cool new trick!

[Edit: Below is the trick that Falcury found. His video uses slightly different rooms, but this doesn't affect the trick itself.]

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby Norbert » January 7th, 2017, 5:49 pm

SuavePrince or someone else who's good - better than I :) - at tricks, we could still use someone to check tricks with MININIM.
More information here; latest MININIM here.

When we know which of the tricks work and which don't:
1. oitofelix can more easily assess which tricks that do not yet work are worthy of his attention (in the context of MININIM's design goals), and
2. I could add checkboxes on the trick pages to indicate MININIM support, which would in turn allow (future) modders to consciously decide if they will or will not exclusively work with tricks that work across all PoP1 implementations.

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby oitofelix » January 7th, 2017, 10:14 pm

Thanks for this initiative, Norbert. I genuinely support it. By the way, you just made me realize I've been writing the word "assessment" incorrectly all along. :oops: What a silly mistake!

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Re: Guide to Prince of Persia tricks (Large Topic)

Postby SuavePrince » March 1st, 2017, 2:42 am

Norbert wrote:SuavePrince or someone else who's good - better than I :) - at tricks, we could still use someone to check tricks with MININIM.

I did not see this topic...Minimin is amazing,but many trick dont work..very moves are different to original pop,so,need disabled moves...maybe work again..


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