(work-in-progress) PoP Modding 2021 Update video

[Norbert]

The July 2013 "Prince of Persia Modding Video" is outdated. The plan is to create and publish an update video. Similar to the old thread where the previous video was discussed, this thread can be used to discuss the update video. Below is a first rough draft. If anything notable (person, thing, whatever) is missing, please let me know. After a week or so, I'll post the exact narrative text that I have in mind, to hopefully once again receive feedback. And then I'll simply make the thing.

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Prince of Persia Modding
2021 Update

Intro

The July 2013 Prince of Persia modding overview video discussed the community's history, and how to get started. What have we been up to since?

Community

First of all, if anyone is ever wondering, is the community still alive and active? The answer is: yes. Simply visit our websites: princed.org, popuw.com, popot.org And our forum: forum.princed.org

NEW Editors

- Game Boy Color (legbop)
- Mega Drive and Sega Genesis (lemdop)
- Apple II and BBC Master (leapop)
- Macintosh (popyorn)
- Master System (lemsop)
- Harem Adventures (pophale)

New Mods

Too many to mention all. Notable (alphabetical):
- Prince 1 and 1/2 by Dmitry
- Princess of Persia by jeminacek
- Secrets of the Citadel by Falcury
- The Queen Of Light and/or 30th Anniversary Port by Shauing
(These are notable, right? Any that are truly notable still missing?)

New Videos

- Too many walkthrough videos to mention all. Notable players with MANY videos (alphabetical):
* Aram Sev.
* ArmFly
* Khushal64n6
* ramco yğ
* Suave Prince
* yaqxsw
* YURA
(Any missing?)
- Informational videos by DavidXNewton.
- Speedrun world record(s?) by Karlgamer.

Tricks

- Notable discoverers of MANY new tricks (alphabetical):
* Aram Sev.
* atrueprincefanfrom2018
* yaqxsw
(Any missing?)

Ports

Notable ports to other platforms:
- For Roku by lvcabral
- For BBC Master by kieranhj
(Any missing?)

FOSS Remakes

Many. Notable (chronological):
- SDLPoP by David (gameplay-accurate), lots of contributors including from Falcury, got ports to other platforms
- MININIM by oitofelix (more experimental)
(Mention Anne's Mini Prince somewhere?)

Updated Software

(alphabetical)
- apoplexy (added playtesting with SDLPoP and MININIM, plus support for SNES and PoP2 DOS)
- CusPop
- NESPrincEd
- PR
- Pr1SnesLevEd
- RoomShaker
- Total Packs
(Any missing?)

Various

- New software: poplaun, savof, and snes2dosxml
- Lots and lots of hex edit solutions and wiki (format) documentation by David.
- Website popot.org updated (notification emails, submitting mods, source code released)
(Anything missing?)

License

This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.
Copyright (C) 2021 Prince of Persia modding community

[atrueprincefanfrom18]

Looks really great. I can definitely see you have taken a lot of time to jot down this info!

New Mods

Too many to mention all. Notable (alphabetical):
[...]
(These are notable, right? Any that are truly notable still missing?)

You could consider adding some difficult mods too, to let the people know there can be various different tricks used and there are 'n' number of possibilities with this game. Maybe if I could suggest: Lockdown on Persia and/or Nasty Dungeons. I'm not sure if it should be mentioned, I leave the decision to you.

- Speedrun world record(s?) by Karlgamer.

SuavePrince does have an unofficial speedrun video that is not mentioned anywhere at all.

New Videos

- Too many walkthrough videos to mention all. Notable players with MANY videos (alphabetical):
[...]
(Any missing?)

Me?

Tricks

- Notable discoverers of MANY new tricks (alphabetical):
* Aram Sev.
* atrueprincefanfrom2018
* yaqxsw
(Any missing?)

Maybe also adding the fact how many tricks were discovered after the 2013 video might be good (Even I didn't count).
And I don't know if it's important to show the names who found the trick.

FOSS Remakes

Many. Notable (chronological):
[...]
(Mention Anne's Mini Prince somewhere?)

Why not. Even this could be mentioned (Although it's still buggy and incomplete).

Updated Software

(alphabetical)
[...]
(Any missing?)

Maybe it might be worth to show something related to what might be possible by altering the SDLPoP source code. As you can see dmitry did a very great job with the Prince 1 and 1/2 mod.

[poirot]

Yeah, I would add SDLPoP editor as well.

[Norbert]

Thanks for all the feedback.
More, also from others, is, of course, always welcome.

[Norbert]

Yeah, I would add SDLPoP editor as well.

I'm curious, atrueprincefanfrom18, do you know what poirot writes about (I do)?

[poirot]

LOL, I look like a very cryptic person. I've uploaded a screencast: https://youtu.be/8bJitLw8x40

[atrueprincefanfrom18]

Yeah, I would add SDLPoP editor as well.

I'm curious, atrueprincefanfrom18, do you know what poirot writes about (I do)?

I guess he means you could add SDLPoP Editor in the video as well. Although it's a bit difficult to use unless you practice it, people (or at least fans) might be surprised to notice there's no limit to what you can do with modding.

Am I right poirot?

[poirot]

Yeah, in my case I love shortcuts and key codes, the same when I use photoshop, I don't like a tools widget to select, I want keycodes!!! 👨‍💻

[poirot]

BTW, about https://youtu.be/8bJitLw8x40 I recommend watching in 2x, if not it's super boring, sorry I didn't add audio, my daughter is sleeping and I don't want to wake her up. I'll try to find some time to make a real screencast with sound and comment a but about the usage.

[Norbert]

By the way, what exactly is the state of the editing functionality?
Are you waiting for the editor branch to be merged with the master of SDLPoP, poirot?

[poirot]

After discussing with David, we decided to leave it into its own branch, so if you want editor functionality, you just have to check out that branch. Merges are done from master into the editor branch from time to time. I personally find the editor branch very mature and releasable. I've used it to build my own mod and it's very useful to play and edit at the same time. You can also use it to teleport the kid while testing or even playing.

[Norbert]

[...], you just have to check out that branch.

I don't know why the outcome of your discussion with David was to leave the functionality in its own branch, but it's unlikely to get any mainstream traction there, I think. Especially given the last merge from master was five years ago, and you don't distribute compiled Windows binaries...

I've used it to build my own mod [...]

Maybe publish?

By the way, did you move from Argentina to Australia?
(Because I remember you being from Argentina, but your forum account says "Location: Australia".)

[poirot]

I'm planning to publish when I finish, it's a huge mod, so it'll take time.

Yeah, I wish it was included in the mainstream SDLPoP, anyways, we can upload the binaries to the page.

[atrueprincefanfrom18]

I'm planning to publish when I finish, it's a huge mod, so it'll take time.

I hope you finish (and release) this year itself.

[poirot]

Yeah, I hope, but it'll have so many features and levels... but this is off-topic