Ideas & Suggestions

Floriam · Post by **Floriam** » May 27th, 2003, 9:44 pm

if someone would rewrite the engine.
but it's not my problem
i've an apple but i would be cool if you can use applegraphics on a windows computer.

TRIDENT · Post by **TRIDENT** » May 28th, 2003, 3:54 pm

heh heh I've played the apple version of prince of persia
on my emulator. Has a nice 640x 400 resolution.
I figured we've come this far, someones bound to increase the rez on the pc version sooner or later.
..... Just a matter of when

If not i can always rescale my sprites..
But it's early days yet

Floriam · Post by **Floriam** » May 30th, 2003, 11:03 pm

i am not sure but in my opinion are the guards on apple stronger (especially Jaffar and first guard in lvl8)
i like it because on apple is more blood and you see more if you are lying in a chopper

TRIDENT · Post by **TRIDENT** » May 31st, 2003, 8:17 am

Hmm maybe.
In my opinion i didn't notice much difference in difficulty
Any difference I may have noticed would be due to the differences in programming since they are on different platforms and how those commands would translate.

Yes there's more gore in the apple version.

But we're here to talk about the pc version, though there were a couple of good points you brought up.
When the structure and coding is better understood i believe we will be able to change the skill and behavior of the guards.
But for the time being the guards have 10 skill levels.
1-10, 10 being jaffar (from what i've heard not too sure).
You will be able to select a skill level for each guard in one of the princed releases.
(don't ask which one i don't know how far they've gotten yet)

Post by **poirot** » June 2nd, 2003, 2:19 am

The lives a guard have depends on the levels. Guards color doesn't.

There are only 5 kinds of fighting:
1) inactive (it won't attack unless you put down your sword, it isn't in the game)
2) level 1 guards style (you can kill him pressing shift all the time)
3) normal
4) level 8 first guard style (it won't come forward) (the hardest for me)
5) jaffar & fat guy (yes, the fight the same style, the only difference is the initial lives and jaffar may stay more than 10 seconds fighting using the up arrow, in the format they use the same code)

TRIDENT · Post by **TRIDENT** » June 2nd, 2003, 7:53 am

If we could have 30 levels how many lives would the guards have?

TRIDENT · Post by **TRIDENT** » June 2nd, 2003, 7:53 am

Are the guard colours stored as pictures? (like a different picture for each colour)
How are they changed or determined in the program?:D

[Editado el 2/6/2003 por TRIDENT]

Post by **poirot** » June 2nd, 2003, 2:42 pm

I don't know the lives a guard can have in level 30

No, there is only one guard saved and a palette for each guard color (I saw that using PG).

Eero · Post by **Eero** » June 2nd, 2003, 5:58 pm

Hmm... I always thought that there are two versions of guards, few guards really seem to be fatter than others...
Oh, and for me Jaffar and fat guy are harder, although you can easily pass them... By the L8 first guard you can just push forward-back-forward-shift...

[Editado el 2/6/2003 por Eero]

TRIDENT · Post by **TRIDENT** » June 6th, 2003, 7:23 am

I've been working hard these past few days making a
3d model of a persian guard.

Once finished it will be easy to animate it and create the desired 2D frames required to replace the current ones in the game. (when the PG compression tool's finished);)
Anyhow i will post some pictures once i near completion of the guard.

ecco · Post by **ecco** » June 6th, 2003, 1:54 pm

Trident, your previous images of the gates, potions, pillars etc. are really good. Did you do them in some 3d graphics programme? I'm hoping to help out in similar ways by doing that sort of thing.

Will there be a function to place the big potions? I've been designing my levels with where I'm going to put them in mind.

Post by **poirot** » June 7th, 2003, 4:34 am

Finally we have the whole knowledges to make the PG compiler. But as the sound and graphic formats were so similar, I'll make only one extractor for both, so this would take me about 3 or 4 days.

after that the PG & PS compression/extraction tool will be finished. I took the name PR (princed resources) for the tool. I'll post the URL to download an alpha version as soon as I can.

TRIDENT · Post by **TRIDENT** » June 16th, 2003, 7:17 pm

Not sure if you all ready knew this but a while back i was playing around with a few key-combinations and discovered some "what appeared to be" tools to help with bebugging.
PRINCE megahit
with the 'megahit' cheat enabled.
c (Codes)
SHIFT c (More codes)
SHIFT b (Shows animations only TOGGLES)
u (Shows UP room)
n (Shows DOWN room)
h (Shows LEFT room)
j (Shows RIGHT room)

I assume they were used to help debug levels. Anyone got any ideas? Some of the codes are
S1 L5 R2 AO B3
AL0 AR0 DL6 BR3
anyhow i hope this helps ,or at least entertains someone.

Post by **poirot** » June 16th, 2003, 10:02 pm

Yes, those codes are the links between screens, It was abstracted in PV3 but in PV2.5 is very useful, I used it in the hard task of figuring out levels.dat. In PV1 there us a key (l) what allows you to see those codes.
S=screen
L=left
R=right
A=up
B=down

AL=upper left
BL= lower left
AR=upper right
BR=lower right

The number is the screen id, abstracted since PV3.

Post by **poirot** » June 16th, 2003, 10:05 pm

ohhh Shift+B only shows the real time refreshing images (animations, the prince moving, the columns if they overlaps the prince, etc), it means it doesn't draw the static background images. Very useful in PG feguring out.