Names of SNES level types

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Names of SNES level types

Post by David » November 12th, 2016, 12:31 pm

There is already a list of PoP1 level names. (DOS/Apple II/Mac/Classic)
Now I made a similar list about the names of the SNES level types (environments).

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which levels             | Pr1SnesLevEd    | Apoplexy | Retro Achievements
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levels  1- 3, training 1 | blue dungeon    | blue     | Catacombs
levels  4- 6, training 2 | pink palace     | fawn     | Basement
levels  7- 9, training 3 | grey palace     | silver   | Fortress
levels 10-12             | red dungeon     | lava     | Into the Inferno
levels 13-15             | green palace    | green    | The Chessy Palace
levels 16-18, training 4 | brown dungeon   | umber    | The Sand Dungeons / The Monster's Cave
level  19   , training 5 | red palace      | marble   | The Royal Palace
level  20                | level 20        | hallway  |
battledome               | jaffar          | Jaffar   |
demo                     | demo red palace | Intro    |
(There should be a better way to make tables...)

Sources:
Pr1SnesLevEd: http://www.popot.org/level_editors.php? ... 1SnesLevEd
Apoplexy: http://www.popot.org/level_editors.php?editor=apoplexy
Retro Achievements: http://retroachievements.org/Game/1113

This walkthrough also mentions the changes in the environment: http://www.gamefaqs.com/snes/588588-pri ... faqs/22875
My favourite part about those is:
Christian Wall wrote: After fallen down the cliff in level 9, you've now come to a lava world.
It may be a volcano, it may be close to hell or why not Jaffar's personal room of pain? Who knows?
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Re: Names of SNES level types

Post by Norbert » November 12th, 2016, 1:45 pm

Quiz question: why does apoplexy use "lava" instead of "red"? :)

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Re: Names of SNES level types

Post by David » November 13th, 2016, 2:43 pm

Norbert wrote:Quiz question: why does apoplexy use "lava" instead of "red"? :)
Maybe because the marble levels also have red?

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Re: Names of SNES level types

Post by Norbert » November 13th, 2016, 3:08 pm

David wrote:
Norbert wrote:Quiz question: why does apoplexy use "lava" instead of "red"? :)
Maybe because the marble levels also have red?
Nope, that's not it.

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Re: Names of SNES level types

Post by Norbert » November 14th, 2016, 11:16 pm

It's because the code checks the first character of the current environment in 'if', 'case' and similar statements.
It started with [d]ungeon and [p]alace as the only cCurType values.
PoP2 for DOS has [r]uins, so [r]ed was no longer an option for SNES.

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Re: Names of SNES level types

Post by David » November 19th, 2016, 12:14 pm

Ohhh... I guess I don't look often at your source code. :)
It could use an enum or something like that.

(And what about PoP2's [r]ooftops or [d]esert? It seems that PoP2's level 1, 2 and 14 are called [o]ther.)

So here is a list of all level type codes used by Apoplexy:

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PoP1 DOS:
'd': dungeon
'p': palace

PoP2 DOS:
'o': other (rooftops, desert, final)
'c': caverns
'r': ruins
't': temple

PoP1 SNES:
'b': blue
'f': fawn
's': silver
'l': lava
'g': green
'u': umber
'm': marble
'h': hallway
'j': Jaffar
'i': intro
Hm, is this also the reason you called levels 16-18 "umber" instead of just "brown"?
Because rown would clash with lue?

Because otherwise "umber" is an unusual color name, especially from (and for!) a non-native English speaker.
Same with "fawn".

Not to mention that men are said to know fewer color names than women.
Mentioned for example in this color name finder: http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color/

Going a bit off-topic:
The other place where I met "umber" was this webcomic: http://www.namirdeiter.com/comics/index ... e=20010129
Reflecting to my comment above, what kind of guy says "copper? bronze? umber? puce?" before "brown!", when guessing his girlfriend's eye color?
The comic's author is a woman, though. (*points to top right corner*)
Or this might simply be a stealth joke that flew over my head...

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Re: Names of SNES level types

Post by doppelganger » December 14th, 2016, 10:54 am

David wrote: Not to mention that men are said to know fewer color names than women.
Mentioned for example in this color name finder: http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color/
Perhaps because women are better at distinguishing colours?
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Re: Names of SNES level types

Post by David » December 17th, 2016, 12:18 pm

doppelganger wrote:Perhaps because women are better at distinguishing colours?
Maybe.

But my original question was that why did Norbert use unusual words like "umber" and "fawn"?
(Maybe I should have ended my post at that part?)

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